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  Found photocopied pages of a book on Jesus, given to me by a householder years ago

  by cedars in

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  2. bible

  hi folks.

  i was going through some old things recently and came across photocopied pages i had forgotten existed.

  they are scans of selected pages from the book who was jesus?, by don cupitt, published in the 70s.

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  Fourteen copis reported here:

  http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=cupitt&sts=t&tn=Who+was+jesus
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  Is This Site As Active As It Was In The Past?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm just curious if jwn is as busy as it was even a year or two ago?

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  sometimes it seems this place buzzes and other times, not so much....but maybe it's all in my head..

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  *sigh* APOSTASY has gone mainstream.

  Now all the kids have their hover-boards and synthetic freeze-dried ice-cream...

  Back in the day we had Kingdom Hall wars, and elder-to-elder full-contact deathmatches!

  Back then we were GLAD to clean the toilets at the convention grounds because it made those damned fresh sandwiches almost palatable!

  Somebody remind me: what kind of car did the Apostle Paul drive?
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  Elders abuse of power

  by toto555 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  elders holding brothers back from being elder because they didn't like them, had a grudge, jealous of them etc.

  selective enforcement of rules as well.

  what have you guys seen over the years?.

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  I've seen cowards invent lies in an attempt to cover-over their own misdeeds.

  Sneaky, embryonic serpents who crave nothing as much as they crave the spotlight.

  Yellow as the yolk of an egg.

  Self-righteous and puffed up with pride and hot air, always with grand plans that come to naught.

  "But it's not MY fault," they cry, "I was frightened, Mommy!"
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  Why I don,t believe in reincarnation.

  by jam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it,s simple, i can not remember crap from my previous life.. the wife told me today if you come back in the next life, please.

  take some science classes.. if i could remember a small percentage of my life today, just a little.

  bit, man would it make a difference.. in school i would be 100% nerd, geek, book worm.

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  If reincarnation was for real, don't you think you would remember the difference between an apostrophe (') and a comma (,)?

  I did.
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  Evolution is Crap, there I said it!

  by Crazyguy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok i started another thread and every one jumped on me because i was trying to take the theory of evolution out of the mix and most here seem to believe in it so i will just say it.

  the theory of major evolution is crap!

  the theory is falling apart.

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  Westiebilly11 asked, " as for God...where did 'he' come from if he does exist..."

  We can ask the same question about Superman, the Man of Steel, who came to Earth with powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men. Superman, who fights a never-ending battle for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!

  ...and we have photographic PROOF of the existence of Superman! No such proof for god.
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  I just want a divorce!

  by bornfree123 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  hi there, this is my first post, but i've been buzzing around this site for years.. i got married at 18, hubby was 20, i was a regular pioneer and we were talking about serving in bethel.

  fast forward - i left in 2004 after a 5 year battle with my conscience, family and friends who kept insisting that i was just "weak and needed to have another bible study".

  however hubby and i stayed together although it was kinda on the understanding that we would just not talk about it.

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  BornFree123 said, "He has since said (by text) that I caused his condition due to my decision to leave "the truth" which caused him so much pain and heartache that his body couldn't cope."

  Perhaps he is unfamiliar with the section of his Holy Book that says:

  1 Corinthians 10:13 [Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)]

  13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
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  New Job

  by LouBelle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well i have been up and down this year with this current company i work for.

  from the time they employed me they have paid me late, without explanation.

  i have been miserable coming in here.

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  Congratulations LouBelle, you did well and accomplished your objective! It's good that you have some to relax a bit before starting the new job. I wish you the best of luck going forward. Focus on building the best tomorrow for yourself that you can.
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  Wolf, sheep - or sheepdog?

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on sheep, wolves, and sheepdogs - by ltc (ret) dave grossman, author of "on killing.

  honor never grows old, and honor rejoices the heart of age.

  it does so because honor is, finally, about defending those noble and worthy things that deserve defending, even if it comes at a high cost.

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  *lost*, I find your continued us of insulting, threatening and provoking language offensive. It is a violation of forum rule #1.

  If you are unable to express yourself in a civil manner, you would do well to remain silent.
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  DFing and shunning causes 22-yr old to murder friend

  by Scully in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i was randomly watching a show on investigation discovery today - the show was called killer next door, and the episode was called murder without motive.. the show is a french-canadian program that has been translated into english, and this particular episode had to do with a homicide that took place in ste-croix-de-lotbiniere, near quebec city, in november 1999 of a young man named victor lemay.. the confessed murderer was his friend, andre roy, then aged 22.. in the year or so that preceded the murder, andre roy had been disfellowshipped from the jws and had, as a result, been kicked out of his parents' home.

  he had no social support outside of the jws and had to start making new friends.

  the psychologists on the program felt very strongly that the shunning he experienced by the jws in general, and his family in particular, contributed to increasing rage, and that his friend, victor, became a convenient outlet for his rage.

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  Phizzy asked, " How long will the U.S allow the first Amendment to limit other fundamental freedoms?"

  This happened in Canada.
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  I just want a divorce!

  by bornfree123 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  hi there, this is my first post, but i've been buzzing around this site for years.. i got married at 18, hubby was 20, i was a regular pioneer and we were talking about serving in bethel.

  fast forward - i left in 2004 after a 5 year battle with my conscience, family and friends who kept insisting that i was just "weak and needed to have another bible study".

  however hubby and i stayed together although it was kinda on the understanding that we would just not talk about it.

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  Yes! Thank you, caliber! "spiritual endangerment" is the new "scriptural concept" I was trying to recall...

  I also wanted to say that if you have the resources, you might hire a Private Investigator to look into HIS social activities.

  He is either completely chaste, a masturbator or keeping comany with another person, either male or female. If your P.I. got some goods on him, it might make him far more compliant. He might even find himself sitting in the little room with 3 elders.